Visit http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/nike-golf-2012-machspeed-x-irons.html# to have a look for your self. Record last updated on..: Mon, Nov 03, 2008, Administrative Contact: sorry, web site is called actioncustomgolfclubs. Im considering looking into the law about a name and shame list not that I can stop it just make people aware, there are some websites that list them but not great as I found out theres to many forums and not enough Help/ action that my opinion. These are the clubs I am looking at. cn, Billing Contact: If you purchace clubs online just make sure you use paypal. Glad to hear that TGW is a good site. If any sight looks fake its that one. fax: Status : Thanks. Miura Golf takes a lot of pride in their clubs and. PGA store has for $799 a set. I found out that the clubs were shipped from China and then I confronted them with why they sell counterfeit clubs to unsuspecting peoplethey didnt want to answer my question but did tell me that they would fully refund my purchasenot too smart because I had already denied the charges. Your previous content has been restored. Me13:22:22 if you want to remove any doubts, go to an authorized dealer. im planning on checking for a serial number and calling callaway to see if the number matches the set. There's a good chance that fake miuras are sold on ebay/aliexpress/dhgate that have no visually discernible difference from legit ones. As you can see, the graphics are a good bit different on the top shaft which is the counterfeit. Tech Street2: Both are hard to find now-a-days in decent shape, let alone decent shape AND conforming groove. The only reason I even attempted to buy clubs from them was because they were one of the only places that had a discontinued model of irons (TaylorMade Burner 2.0s in black finish) that I so desperately wanted. Thank you! Daisy 00:13:10 Thoughts from anyone? Many of the shafts will feel flimsy or not as stiff as the flex stated on the shaft. When I wrote this I really hoped it could help one less person get taken for a ride. This site has already saved me from a couple sites!! If anyone has any experience with them I would appreciate your opinion. You expression of pleasure whilst participating in this forum is a worry. Serial number , well they said when I get my clubs i can check to the serial numbers. all are great to deal with. So what does OEM mean? So clearly, they deal with Callaway. our greed, is what makes these crooks successful. Do you have questions or comments? yeah sorry wondering if mine are legit now . You guys sure Hurricanegolf.com is legit? Miura. I would recommend people to after trying out other clubs to search for a second hand version due to the great price difference and definite legitimacy. I traded my old set of CB-301s for them plus some cash. Counterfeit Ping G15 Hybrid. spent $530. I was looking at the new Taylor superfast Burner Drivers and fairway woods. The fact they say they sell OEMs is proof they are scumbag counterfeiters. At first I thought "maybe" on eBay with the almost $300 buy it now, but it smelled fishy. It has no physical address, you cant pop round and see them. hello $3,200. . The Chinese workers (who work in the factories) will steal the mould of the golf clubs and sell them for thousands of dollars. Why didnt I think of that?!? No composite materials. From everything I can see they look like the real deal? It all started when foundries overseas started to get the majority of the golf club production business from the United States. Me 09:55:43 90% of me says avoid like the plague. Does anyone know of this site is selling fakes? They are both in California but have great ratings, 99.9 and 99.8. Some insight anyone? He should have no problem giving out names if they truly are selling them due to overstock. Just a bit of advice for those of you who have been unfortunate enough to buy fake clubs. I am looking for second hand Titleist AP2 irons 2008 model. I bought a D3 Titleist online. But i can hit it quite far. tel: Not a nice feeling. I knew Id get stuck otherwise, w/ either the club or a return shipping fee. Does this mean the clubs are bogus???? I was looking at buying some titleist ap2 irons from this website, but like everyone else, am questioning the sites authenticity. http://www.golfulove.com. Thanks, Pete. * Company sales in 2002 must be $100,000 or greater; 2006 sales must not exceed $1 billion Thomas Rath Postal Code : 606550 The G10 driver did not sound quite like a Ping should sound so I checked the serial number with Ping, and they confirmed these were fakes. Can easily tell when the grooves have dirt/grass in them and need to be cleaned. Although still entirely made in their Himeiji forging house, Miura clubs are sold in the component form to approved dealers who can custom fit players to their clubs. tel: There simply aren't many other clubs in existence that look as good as the CB57s. The wedge has an elegant simplicity that is often missing in modern golf clubs. etc.This being said, he has own the club for months without noticing the difference. Jeez, read the section for About Us, To purchase cheap golf clubs from onlineeconomygolf.com is your best choice. i recently purchased a set of Callaway Razr clubs from http://www.golfdiscounttown.com and am hugely concerned that i have been scammed.does anyone have any info on these guys? Counterfeit will not have normal bag chatter because they are made out of cheaper metal. CB201 in 3-5 Iron and Retro Blades in 6-PW. I only paid $389. So I repeat my accusation. As with the heads and shafts of the clubs, the colors will most of the time be a little off. No problem as I can see. Tech FAX: +86.85228691896 This is a small family run operation where each and every club head passes through a rigorous inspection at the Miura owned forge and factory in Himeji, Japan. These tips will help a lot of people out who didnt know to look for these things. for the scammers to use. just wondering if anyone has purchased anything off the seller busibee11 on ebay he is located in the USA and has sold a lot of gear with great feedback, and he looks like a genuine seller, so just after any info thanks. In which category do you come into? Speaking of undermining economies, Im surprised that wallymart isnt carrying these FAKE clubs. Bill Phone Ext. But now we find your MasterCard is perhaps a fake. Very quick (free!) I would really appreciate if you could provide a list of what you consider safe sites and the taboo sites. clientTransferProhibited I just found this thread after seeing a set of three Miura wedge heads for sale on eBay and wondering if they are real. I am a lefty so maybe this protects me a little, but the response to garagesalegolf on ebay is extremely positive and I felt very good about them for that reason. disclaims all warranties, expressed or implied, including, but not limited to, implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. One thing I can say is that with OEM equipment made mainly in China and Taiwan, it can be a challenge for the average punter without research to buy with confidence it is only natural that we try to get cheaper gear as how many of us can actually pay retail for in the thousands for a new set of sticks, adding on extra hundreds for woods and hybrids, then money for shoes, balls and gloves etc, and then actual playing fees?!! My warning to any website with names such as this one. I am looking for some PING irons and they sell these at a lower price than in the shop. Pasted as rich text. * Wiki article on Golfdiscounting.com They also will give good discounts for quantity orders, and they have about 1,000 sets of each in stock. Miura (13) Mizuno (240) Nickent Golf (0) Nike (45) Odyssey (15) Ping (310) PRGR (267) Roddio (29) RAM (0) Royal Collection (5 . I purchased a set of Mizuno mp 52 from golfclubseller and got a reply from shoponlinewholesaler. http://www.golfonline.co.uk Thanks. Sometimes I feel like people red these articles and might never use the info. RockBottomGolf.com has over a 99.8% customer approval rating between all the marketplaces they sell on and market in. 2nd Swing is actually now an authorized US Miura dealer/distributor so you can bet theres no funny stuff with them. very soft feel the few times i did hit it. I bought pxg irons because at least they are assembled by the engineers not mad produced by companies that pay the workers a ridiculous low wage. Glad to hear. They were the Taylormade R9 3 wood and 5 wood, brand new. Tgib Marketing Inc is a private company categorized under Golf goods and equipment and located in Rochester, NY. Rob, http://www.salegolfcentre.com Loved this read. From this list, the Hot 500 was selected. BEWARE of http://www.golfwholesaleshop.comthey are fakes!!! I also just posted a video on youtube (click here to watch) where I casually explain the history and show off the condition of these irons in hand. My distance dropped noticably and the feel of the ball strike sucks with all kinds of weird vibrations in the grip. I had my wakeup call and I am going out today to GOLFTOWN to look on the spot for some resonable clubs. I bought some Ping G25s and while the shafts (TFC 360 graphite) and grips looked ok, the heads had a plastic covered piece of grey foam where the CTP should be (Tungsten insert). The bag is prodomenantly black and red, and the suspicioun came when I noticed the font that R9 is written in, the letters are taller. Does anyone know how I check it is legit? /** Retail stores such as, Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy, and others must sign pricing agreements with the manufacturer before they are allowed to sell their clubs. Now, I have seen almost a half dozen sellers (some new, some with used) listing fake MC-501s, some with obvious fake component builds, others actually put together decently. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Have you ever noticed the exception wording on any of the sales you see from any of the big retailers. When he got a package and realized that address from China. Me13:21:47 Tag Heurer has a network of retailers that exclusively sell their product (Just like many club makers have with the golf stores). Ive fallen for this kind of thing as well and to my cost. So my opinion is that the brands and the golf associations whom keep promoting golf and making billions should start to provide a better awareness about fake golf manufactures. Registrar History: 1 registrar Avoiding the colors, lines, grooves or enhanced soles that other iron makers use to draw eyes to their golf clubs. mate not all is lost. Nowhere do they mention these are used. Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By Tech Organization: Chen Sun I have bought several clubs from them and they seem legit. Nate did the serial number check out? The best remedy to deal with fake clubs, especially when steel heads are supplied when they should be of titanium, is to shorten the shafts immediately so that they fit into your dustbin easily. I sent an email out the next day to both Talormade and the seller. All shafts and grips match and the clubs look and feel great! I have already emailed them to let them know, they said they are looking into it. It started out with some black and satin finish heads, shipped directly from China. This button displays the currently selected search type. It seems legit. As a GolfWRX reader, you know how much a custom fit club can work for you over something bought off the shelf. Do they sell ALL brands of golf clubs? I ALMOST got duped but luckily canceled the transaction through my bank while it was pending. the particular irons i looked at (Nike Golf- 2012 Machspeed X Irons 4-PW/AW Steel) were very poor quality clubs. And then compare pictures from both because that's. Reading the story that they were highlighted in Golf Digest and GolfWorld magazine as a top store made me feel a little comfortable. Counterfeit Ping G30 Driver. Due to weather and work, I havent been able to take em out to the range or course yet. Arrived promptly, managed to view and test the set. When I told them the bolts came completely out, they suggrsted that I take the clubs to an authorized dealer to see if they might be counterfeit. Too cheap to be genuine and no postal or contact. Im seeing about 10 yards additional distance with each club over my previous set (RAM Tours). Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway I figured Miura would do something about it, especially the eBay listings, but I think they don't want to get involved when all a buyer has to do is patronize a real dealer. FAKE CLUB TEST #2 TaylorMade r7 460 Driver. I believe these brands have prices that retailers are not supposed to reduce. Yeah you really have to be careful DGodons. When it arrived, I compared it to Pings photos, it looked legit. Registration Service Provided By: Xiamen ChinaSource Internet Service Co,. What a surprise, the logo isnt linked. Taylormade spends millions on marketing through pga golfers, stop slandering the asians because they are fighting slave labor. Golfuksales.uk is selling fake clubs from china. Display as a link instead, 1) The club head sizes were too large; 2) the head covers were made of plastic not leather; 3) the shaft lengths were too long for a 3 & 5 wood; 4) the shaft graphics were wrong; 5) the grips were colored when they should have been simple black; 6) the club weight were too heavy; 7) the shafts should have been Blur 70 not 60 (the driver shaft); 8) the serial numbers were not registered with Taylormade and blurry; 9) they used a cheap ill-fitting gasket under the face angle plate with a slightly discolored red plate; and 10) they misaligned the shaft and club head so the the 5 wood loft angle was more than 19 degrees in the neutral position. I spent time in the shop and analyzed which options were best for me The time alone with the pro was worth more than any cost savings or risk online. Secone you cant click on the Mcfee site adviser at the bottom of the webpage. Font used will be slightly different or maybe a slightly different size. Very interesting debate. So I asked for the transaction to be cancelled and I was refunded. Organization : Joe Citra Please dont worry about the quality, because our clubs are made with the same technology and mould. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. i tried to confirm the serial no. Golf Club Type: Iron Set Club Number: - Number of Clubs: 5 Handedness: Right-Handed Department: Men Model: ONOFF (2022) AKA Excellent point. PS This is a great forum. Are these legitimate? Country: China Some companies etch the serial numbers into the metal and some companies use a laser that isnt actually etched into the metal. Heres a tip, Go to the golf store and pay retail price. The best way to put counterfeiters out of business is to educate buyers on how to avoid buying their products. Does anybody know if http://www.wholesalegolfmall.com are genuine? Jeff. Are you familiar with an outfit called http://www.golfetail.com? http://www.golfonlinedeal.com/392-Ping-Rapture-V2-Irons.html, http://www.bestwebshop.co.uk/ping-rapture-v2-irons-p-244:84f72ca761dab049f016fe8313551b65.html, http://www.gfseller.com/Ping-Rapture-V2-Green-DotIrons-3-9PS-1146.html. I've never seen fake left handed Miura irons. * 6 other web sites are hosted on this server. I wish we could change the economic and regulatory environment in this country to get our manufacturing back. And that is a new trick for them to use old serial numbers. so.. Does anyone know about this? I was wanting to know some information on these websites. stay away from this seller,, the-tour-van,, quite a joke, guy working out of his apartment flipping stuff he buys from china and ebay, quite the joke, fake shafts, pulls, etc has no industry knowledge and here things about this dude constantly on every golf website there is. The website was not a secured site and B of A has had to give him a new account number. By the way I finally remembered to add you guys on facebook. Tech City: yiwu They claim that they sell Authentic clubs but I want to know for sure. Normally, the counterfeit serial numbers are in a different font and specifically a larger font. But yours seems so genuine, I know i can trust you. Factory-golf.com #4-#9 PW, SW and AW all for $339. Has anyone bought from these two or know if they are selling legit clubs. But rest assured we only buy direct from manufacturers or from other suppliers that we know have the real goods. *We may earn a commission when you buy through links on our site. money, time and performance. they arrived 3 days later with the plastic wrap still on the heads in separate boxes. In fact, dont worry about giving me a total amount for it all just now, heres my credit card number 4455 3243 2323 2323 exp 10/15, mastercard. If such a thing does exist then surely the clubs would be suited to someone who hits the ball a mile, gets it out of the sweet spot nine times out of 10 and regularly scores par or better. I have just ordered $2000 worth of clubs from them. Just came across a site http://www.wholesalegolfclubs.co.uk I figured that too. :), Thanks, I recueved the wedges and were superb quality and fast shipping, site is reccomended, Guys are you sure those clubs are guenuine ? Maybe you just need golf lessons. I am sorry to say they got me for $250 for a R11 which was a fake. About 10 20 times their Annual salary! ns1.ename.cn AboutUs: Wiki article on Brandgolfclubs.com I understand that the ones on 2ndSwing are generally accepted to be authentic. He got the package from UPS what I saw. My friend brought it a year ago and that set look good quality. Counterfeit products are big business - fake Rolex watches, Gucci handbags and Prada shoes can be found easily worldwide. I have seen plenty of 501 fakes. Being cheated is much worst than the loss of money. There prices are cheap but not ridiculous like some sites. not far behind some African scams thats for sure. I agree with all you said, i guess I just hoped someone would have said yes it is genuine however assessing your Chinese jive, I will avoid this and save my 240. San, Alaska 99504 Bill Phone: +86.05946277277 I have seen many posts where people ask how to Sell Your Golf Stuff Fast so they can get the answer from here as how and what to be done before buying golf clubs. Tech Phone: +86.85283408916 Their price on a R1 is about $75.00 lower than the best price on Ebay. I ordered a Taylormade R9 Supertri through http://www.ordergolfonline.com last night. Should I consider these to be legit? Has anyone bought clubs on the website economygolfsale.com? This is on because of weight saving. What gives those eBay ones away? When I questioned their online customer service they said these are original Pings with serial numbers ? All you could get was their on-line question and answer system which simply repeated all the stuff about OEM manufacturers etc. In looking at the photos on the Chinese sites, nothing jumps out at me as obvious signs of being fake. Good spotting Gary. We will try to get our hands on some of the counterfiet gear. DONT SEARCH THE INTERNET FOR CHEAP PRICE GOLF CLUB! http://timjenkinsgolf.co.uk/ This is a very enlighten article. ns5.ename.cn The site purports to be out of Chicago. Clue one: Unbelievable prices. There are two sellers selling the same clubs, only a few dollars apart and their pages seem VERY similar. That is very scam! I have purchased equipment from EBay, Hurricane Golf, TGW, Golfio and Rock Bottom Golf. Page Views per Visit: Up Arrow 1 Month: 2.5 3 Month: 1.7. I got a reply that said will return emails on Monday 2-28. First thing I would do is ask for real pics of the clubs. 1-877-860-8624, Mizuno iron sets will have the serial number on the hosel of every iron. Colors are different. tel: Is this a real website because the prices are really low. Any comments? This is a major concern since the JPX series irons did not come out until September of 2010. The Miura CB 1008 irons check all the boxes for a player's iron - thin top line, minimal offset, modest sole width - but they also have something that makes them unique. Phoenix, AZ. Sounded like an empty tea kettle! What is difficult is I am interested in the R9 i forged irons, which are not available in the US. And thanks for speaking up to infom others about these scammers! Its a ladies Adams 13 pc A3 OS. I am thinking of buying a set of x22 irons from http://www.golfdealonline.com any news on this website are the legit looks like great prices.. claim OEM? Since the clubs looked slightly off I compared them to real clubs at our local store. Do they have a phone number or mailing address? Y! It looks fake as the print on the hosel and the shaft is not as sharp as those I have seen. Thank you. Lastly, use common sense if a brand new R11 driver is advertised as $200 off its most defenitely not legit. I wish I read this before I went for the mirage that is cheap online Titleist Drivers! Miura is a relatively small forge in Japan, founded by Katsuhiro Miura. Thats why we could sell them at such favorable price. Do you know if cashforgolfclubs sell genuine clubs? Ill pay full-price from a local legit dealer. I get my thrills in more conventional ways, but that is beside the point. Awesome information. Your best option is to get your money back from PayPal. I spoke with their online help and see the result: Nicole 20:21:24 The golf clubs on this website definitely are fake. Katsuhiro Miura strives to make the perfect golf club and has produced over 10 series which include putters, irons, and wedges. Ill post any further response from them. they really do feel unique. If the name brand companies would just charge a reasonable price for their goods than the knockoffs and clones would not exist but thats another story. China blocks all inbound queries, another clue. Gee, you sound like such a nice guy. Those 201's are super clean! Ive found some cleveland cg7 irons 5-pw on onlinegolf.com for 179.99. Registrant Street2: There is much less control when lets say a company like Taylormade gives its design to a firm overseas compared to one in its own backyard. Good idea for a post. return shipping can be hugely expensive (iron return quoted by DHL as $240 US). The phone number and fax number appear legit. Im just looking for a good deal so could u give me a list of good uk based sites or if I bought from the states like hurrican golf would I have to pay import duty on them, Hi golf spy, Great job all! Of course the set is over a year old. Are there any options for me to get my money back? Thank you for the post. I filed the complaint this AM with PayPal and checked my Email shortly after. Then there is NO question as to the legitamacy. and is also protected by China and its international copyright laws. Notice the word China! I've got two Miura wedges from there, they came in basically new condition for significant discount (looked like they had hit 3-5 balls indoors). Ground research has found address given is fictitious. A guy in China does not give a crap if your 6 iron weighs the same as your 5 iron in grams. There is some advantage though to a higher trajectory. (I took pictures to demonstrate all of this). The fact that the retailers are in on it also is another story. None of their clubs are made here. RockBottomGolf.com ranked 159th out of 500 and had a 586% growth over four years between 2002 and 2006. I junked the driver and went to Golf Galaxy and bought a real one. Link follows. Its stealing. Hi Dan D i have also just been scammed by the same site topgolfmall with a set of Diablo Callaways so i to wish i had seen these type of sites first. Is golf storeshop.com an official site or do they sell fakes? I have been in contact with a gentleman from online store called Golf Mart. They sell more gold clubs than anyone on Ebay and have the most favorable ratings. I found another website that seems to be just another scam. The Miura CB-2008 six-piece set (5-iron through pitching wedge) will sell for approximately $2,400, depending on custom shaft choice, and they are available now through Miura authorized dealers . And nowthe US produces next to nothing and the reason is cost and efficiency. I was wondering If its easier to counterfeit forged or cast irons and if its easier to counterfeit drivers vs irons. This is what TM does now but how can we be sure buying outside of a local pro shop of golf chain even TM refuses to verify online purchased clubs based on serial number registration now after checking I am certain the sticks are authentic and I am stoked as I have saved a considerable sum, but I also am very well researched. Awesome job! Has anyone investigated as to whether these guys are legitimate? Stay away. Register.Com Found out GOLFSTOCKONLINE.COM is just another COUNTERFEIT operation!!! So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. I determined this by noting that at address the labeling on the shafts was visible whereas the genuine Ping clubs have the labeling on the underside at address. Benock Putter. Driver PRGR Super Egg, Honma 717 3 wood, Titleist 915 19*, Itobori iron set and wedge set, Itobori putter. Since its founding by three high school friends in 2000, RockBottomGolf.com has grown to more than $21.4 million in revenue by 2006. Registrant: And, if you are writing at other places, I would like Has anyone ever purchased from him? However, there are serial numbers on the hosel of the clubs, but for some reason, the 4 iron is a different number. I consider these to be authentic. I hope they have some great holiday specials for I have several golfers in my family. JohnUK. They're authentic. I am considering buying a Titleist Scotty Cameron Limited Edition Napa putter. might take some getting use to. The quality difference between the two can be remarkable between the two. On Scotty Cameron putters it is located on the shaft up near the grip usually between the bottom of the grip and the top of the shaft band. Anyone know how to get hold of a company with the web site wholesalegolfplace.com ? Whois History: 27 records have been archived since 2008-01-14. Counterfeit Ping G30 Driver. I know others in Miura fakes threads on this forum have said it isn't feasable to make copies because there isn't a large enough market to make it worthwhile, but these are either the best deals ever, or they're fakes. It will make a difference! Its called Karma. Most of these are the top retailers, but not Maruman and Tourstage, yet this list seems to be common amongst all the questionable sites you have listed. These companies are making tons of money. Here you can find golf clubs for sale at the best price, such as newest., Another asian discount site trying very hard to disguise where their clubs are coming from. Hope everyone finds this usefulPlease Pass It On. Free shipping threw out the world; discount for Shenzhen resident; send your money now. Clear editor. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting I actually called Taylor Made and they were nice enough to check serial no. Thats not to say there arent fakes! Stitching on the lettering and branding will be of poor quality. I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. very soft feel the few times i did hit it. Go look right now. This disclaimer constitutes an essential part of this agreement.. They sure look legit! Do not know what to believe Find no complaints when I search on the Internet. It was a brand new club and, after receiving it, I could not tell if it was a fake or not. Nick, I purchased a set of TaylorMade r7 CGB Max Graphite from an online store at an unbelievably low price. Speaking of security, notice that when you go to the page that asks you to put in most of your personal information that it is NOT secure. Expires on: 21-Mar-14 The old adage is true..if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is. Same scam dif sites. They also said they regulate their prices according to the volume of products and that a lot of these prices will end at the end of April. Your genuine help will be greatly appreciated, thank you. Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 What can you tell me about Discounts for Golf? Welcome cheap golf clubs.. See that barge pole over in the corner of your room? Anyway, I found that golfdealonline.com, discountgolf18.com, and golfsuperstoreonline.com all have the same contact number of (919)228-9899. Should of known considering that the irons are sold out at EVERY reputable store in my area including the few reputable online dealers. Odyssey Nick, While some clubs have amazing deals, others are not. Because of this article, I went to Diamond Tour and looked over their wares, as well as spoke to several of their staffAnd, I bought a set of irons from them. Your link has been automatically embedded. Paste as plain text instead, There whois info is spotty at best. I will link pictures here, seems you cant upload a Foto. For example, the counterfeit has a different groove pattern, different color head, the T in titleist is not crossed, etc. EmperorPenguin Just want to see if they are reputable. I am looking at a sale catalog from Edwin Watts, certainly one of the most highly regarded golf retailers ever. Is your wesbite a scam?